Great catch Peter

The second pic is classic...we brought home carps that way from the market during Chinese New Year, with the fish still mouthing....bring back memories...

Background? what background

Silvers are my favourite species....my killer lure is a 3/8 oz Kasmaster, same lure I used for Whities.....I often used the same lure to target these two species on the same day out of two bodies of water....except that I still use ice rod for the latter 

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The bugs were very healthy and fat..lol   We saw somebody's boat left soon as the bugs came out..lol  But you know what people, soon as it get real dark the the bugs goes away because of the coldness.

Kastmaster, it make sense why you love that bait.  It must get down to the bottom nice and fast.  Do you cast it out and slow retrieve it or do you vertical jig it?  Sorry if I put you on the spot but you don't have to answere if you don't want to..lol (I'am just trying to pick your brain..)

Fishcrazy

Jigging while fishing for Whities, definitely....personally, the way you jig and the zone where you present the lure come on top of the kind of lure you use....Williams tends to flutter too much especially when dropping lure into deep waters...retrieving tangled lure is no fun and inefficient....yeah, engineers are full of it

While fishing for Silvers, in slow to still waters, I just cast out to beyond the fish and retrieve slowing.....fishing the rapids is so much fun, cast the lure downstream and let it go until it hits bottom, retrieve a bit to lift the lure a coupla feet above the bottom, hold the lure there the current will work it for you....every once in awhile work the lure with the rod......repeat this cycle until you find the fish....match lure size with depth & current....replace the treble with a single can speed up unhooking but you'll lose the odd one

Enjoy, and save some for us....I won't mind you top off the record though