Nothing beats showing your guest on board a trick or two of how to boat a couple of target fish.....and probably a delicious shore dinner has been served too
cdslec we all enjoy reading your fishing biography, well sort of ...
...from day one when you asked for opinions from the board for buying a fishing boat...thereafter we've been following you foot path from G'bay, Notti and now to Lady Simcoe....sharing your success of jigging them Whites and now scraping them LT from deep down...here's a big thanks to you!
Bassing tips.......
if you wanna target bass you gotta fish with bass
just wondering where our boss is these days....get lost like most other bass?
thanks Shmartangler, I have learnt a lot from this board and here is a technical question: I have got a second hand manual downrigger which caught me 8 lake trout so far and I plan to buy another used one. should I consider electric or manual?
I went on my own to lake simcoe in the afternoon today. the weather was good when I started. I trolled for about 1 hour to have hooked one laker but lost it when I tried to retrieve the cannon ball and to paly the fish at the same time. that could be a problem when you have a manual downrigger and you are fishing on your own. then, in about 1.5 hours, I hooked another laker and decided not to retrieve the ball this time but played the fish at the other side of the boat until I boated fish.
I should have turned back at this point but thought there might be more fish ahead.
I went on until I got my second laker and then turned around heading home. By that time I was a little too far off the shore. the lightening storm came so quickly and my 9.9 hp outboard struggled through the heavy rain, strong wind and big waves. the light was dimming and I could not see the direction in the heavy rains. There were occasions that I felt that the lightening would strike on me. I was not sure I could make it at some point.
fortunately, the storm did not last long and I was able to manoeuvre my boat to the dock eventually.
...just look back and count the no. of hrs you've spent on this trolling biz, dont you think you should treat yourself a bit better?....get a pre-owned one for now and get a top model when you upgrade your tinnie to a bigger boat, by which time you may even fish the blue zone(300+FOW) for the Kings in the great lakes....just a thought
We too were almost caught by the thunderstorm yesterday....
We were bassing in the late afternoon...around 8pm WalleyeKing, the guy casting next to me hauled in a slab crappie which had taken his spinnerbait whole heartedly...needless to say I immediately dropped my bassing gear and picked up the pan fish combo....first cast, got myself a dink perch, that's alright...threw back....second cast, I found the 6 lb-test mono refused to land on the water, it just kept dancing between the bobber and the rod tip....it rang the bell, since I've come across some messageboard discussions about this phenom before...as I turned my shoulder trying to draw others attention I found CrappieKing's hairs were all pointing out from the skull like a punk head....yesiree, we were in the middle of a heavy static field, a sign of foreplay by the thunderbolts...managed to pull out the cell and took a pic before we packed it in...no more than 5 minutes on the road the thunderstorm rolled in...mother nature's painting in the sky was so spectacular...and scarey too.......didnt have a chance to witness what's going over our last fishing spot, but that was surely a close call
cdslec, you might as well consider the addition of a hi-capacity bilge pump to your tinnie......LOL
Cdslec, if you don't mind me I would like to add my 2 cents. I have not personally used downrigging equipment, but I have seen electric downriggers in use at least a dozen times when I hired a fishing guide to go salmon and steelhead trolling in the Great Ontario Salmon Derby on Lake Ontario launching out of Port Credit in the Mississauga area.
First, I want to comment on fishing alone on big water like Lake Ontario and Lake Simcoe. The fishing guide told me he never fishes alone in big water. It's not worth the risk. It not the same as fishing alone in an inland lake like Rice Lake where the water surface temperature is much higher than temperatures in big water. If you are alone far from shore and the high winds sneak up on you, you could be in for a rough ride. It sounds like that happened to you. If don't have one, you should get a VHF radio and take a course to get the licence to operate one. It could be your lifesaver. You can check for weather conditions before and during your trip out on the water and radio for help if there is an emergency. Cell phones don't always work off shore. If a boater alone falls into the water, even with a life jacket, you can suffer from hypothermia every fast in cold big water. VHF marine radio courses are offered in the Toronto area by www.cps-ecp.ca and http://www.sailing.humber.ca/vhftohl.htm.
Now to your downrigging question. Since you are operating a 9.9 hp engine, I have to assume your boat is no more than 16 feet long. If you can afford it, upgrade to an electric downrigger, but I personally would not have more than one cannon ball down at a time. You have to operate the engine and keep an eye on the downrigger. One thing you should keep in mind is that it is a little tricker operating 2 downriggers at the same time. You have to make wider turns with the boat so the downrigger cables don't cross each other and tangle up. My fishing guide told me about aggressive trollers who got too close to another boat trolling and they got tangled in each other downrigging cables. They had to cut their cannonball free. I assume you are using a sonar/GSP unit when you are trolling. You have to make sure your cannonball is not too deep where there is a chance the cannonball may snag rocks on the bottom. A number of years ago in Lake Ontario, there was a boating accident where a boat trolling got overturned by waves when the cannonball may have snagged rocks. It is a good idea to have at least 2 pairs of cable cutters in case of an emergency when you need to cut free your cannonball.
good point on not to have 2 cannon balls down at the same time. I would then need to consider a 48' boom on the second downrigger to eliminate the chance of tangling, though normally longer boom is not recommended for a 14' boat.
everyone around me said that I should go for an electric. my only concern is the battery. I do not have a battery since my 9.9 hp is a pull-to-start type. therefore, in order to operate an electric rigger, I need to get a battery for the boat. I have a small spare 12v 7.5 amp battery for my son's scooter. not sure it can do the job?
That capacity means the battery is only good for a steady drainage of 0.35amp over a 20hr period....any increase in the draining current will not only decrease the available working time but the overall capacity as well ...any electric downrigger will draw 5~10 amp for a 10lb ball at 200'/min retrieving speed....you'd need a 100Ah deep cycle battery to make yourself comfortable....no battery is oversized
There are other ways to fish 2 lines out of one single d'rigger...stacker rig, slider rig....you can goto SPOONPULLERS DOT COM, register to view their archive...loads of info there
A job well done cdslec
Nothing beats showing your guest on board a trick or two of how to boat a couple of target fish.....and probably a delicious shore dinner has been served too
cdslec we all enjoy reading your fishing biography, well sort of
...
...from day one when you asked for opinions from the board for buying a fishing boat...thereafter we've been following you foot path from G'bay, Notti and now to Lady Simcoe....sharing your success of jigging them Whites and now scraping them LT from deep down...here's a big thanks to you!
Bassing tips.......
if you wanna target bass you gotta fish with bass
just wondering where our boss is these days
....get lost like most other bass?
I was caught in the lightening storm in Barrie
thanks Shmartangler, I have learnt a lot from this board and here is a technical question: I have got a second hand manual downrigger which caught me 8 lake trout so far and I plan to buy another used one. should I consider electric or manual?
I went on my own to lake simcoe in the afternoon today. the weather was good when I started. I trolled for about 1 hour to have hooked one laker but lost it when I tried to retrieve the cannon ball and to paly the fish at the same time. that could be a problem when you have a manual downrigger and you are fishing on your own. then, in about 1.5 hours, I hooked another laker and decided not to retrieve the ball this time but played the fish at the other side of the boat until I boated fish.
I should have turned back at this point but thought there might be more fish ahead.
I went on until I got my second laker and then turned around heading home. By that time I was a little too far off the shore. the lightening storm came so quickly and my 9.9 hp outboard struggled through the heavy rain, strong wind and big waves. the light was dimming and I could not see the direction in the heavy rains. There were occasions that I felt that the lightening would strike on me. I was not sure I could make it at some point.
fortunately, the storm did not last long and I was able to manoeuvre my boat to the dock eventually.
what a day!
a good fishing day, anyway.
lake simcoe 现在钓 白鱼和lake trout 正是时候。
"should I consider electric or manual?"
.....definitely electric!
...just look back and count the no. of hrs you've spent on this trolling biz, dont you think you should treat yourself a bit better?
....get a pre-owned one for now and get a top model when you upgrade your tinnie to a bigger boat, by which time you may even fish the blue zone(300+FOW) for the Kings in the great lakes....just a thought
We too were almost caught by the thunderstorm yesterday....
We were bassing in the late afternoon...around 8pm WalleyeKing, the guy casting next to me hauled in a slab crappie which had taken his spinnerbait whole heartedly...needless to say I immediately dropped my bassing gear and picked up the pan fish combo....first cast, got myself a dink perch, that's alright...threw back....second cast, I found the 6 lb-test mono refused to land on the water, it just kept dancing between the bobber and the rod tip....it rang the bell, since I've come across some messageboard discussions about this phenom before...as I turned my shoulder trying to draw others attention I found CrappieKing's hairs were all pointing out from the skull like a punk head....yesiree, we were in the middle of a heavy static field, a sign of foreplay by the thunderbolts...managed to pull out the cell and took a pic before we packed it in...no more than 5 minutes on the road the thunderstorm rolled in...mother nature's painting in the sky was so spectacular...and scarey too
.......didnt have a chance to witness what's going over our last fishing spot, but that was surely a close call
cdslec, you might as well consider the addition of a hi-capacity bilge pump to your tinnie......LOL
If You Don't Mind Me Adding My 2 Cents
Cdslec, if you don't mind me I would like to add my 2 cents. I have not personally used downrigging equipment, but I have seen electric downriggers in use at least a dozen times when I hired a fishing guide to go salmon and steelhead trolling in the Great Ontario Salmon Derby on Lake Ontario launching out of Port Credit in the Mississauga area.
First, I want to comment on fishing alone on big water like Lake Ontario and Lake Simcoe. The fishing guide told me he never fishes alone in big water. It's not worth the risk. It not the same as fishing alone in an inland lake like Rice Lake where the water surface temperature is much higher than temperatures in big water. If you are alone far from shore and the high winds sneak up on you, you could be in for a rough ride. It sounds like that happened to you. If don't have one, you should get a VHF radio and take a course to get the licence to operate one. It could be your lifesaver. You can check for weather conditions before and during your trip out on the water and radio for help if there is an emergency. Cell phones don't always work off shore. If a boater alone falls into the water, even with a life jacket, you can suffer from hypothermia every fast in cold big water. VHF marine radio courses are offered in the Toronto area by www.cps-ecp.ca and http://www.sailing.humber.ca/vhftohl.htm.
Now to your downrigging question. Since you are operating a 9.9 hp engine, I have to assume your boat is no more than 16 feet long. If you can afford it, upgrade to an electric downrigger, but I personally would not have more than one cannon ball down at a time. You have to operate the engine and keep an eye on the downrigger. One thing you should keep in mind is that it is a little tricker operating 2 downriggers at the same time. You have to make wider turns with the boat so the downrigger cables don't cross each other and tangle up. My fishing guide told me about aggressive trollers who got too close to another boat trolling and they got tangled in each other downrigging cables. They had to cut their cannonball free. I assume you are using a sonar/GSP unit when you are trolling. You have to make sure your cannonball is not too deep where there is a chance the cannonball may snag rocks on the bottom. A number of years ago in Lake Ontario, there was a boating accident where a boat trolling got overturned by waves when the cannonball may have snagged rocks. It is a good idea to have at least 2 pairs of cable cutters in case of an emergency when you need to cut free your cannonball.
Remember to play safe where ever you are fishing!
Blinky
ttt
thanks for your advice, Brinky
good point on not to have 2 cannon balls down at the same time. I would then need to consider a 48' boom on the second downrigger to eliminate the chance of tangling, though normally longer boom is not recommended for a 14' boat.
lake simcoe 现在钓 白鱼和lake trout 正是时候。
battery for downrigger
thanks shmartangler,
everyone around me said that I should go for an electric. my only concern is the battery. I do not have a battery since my 9.9 hp is a pull-to-start type. therefore, in order to operate an electric rigger, I need to get a battery for the boat. I have a small spare 12v 7.5 amp battery for my son's scooter. not sure it can do the job?
lake simcoe 现在钓 白鱼和lake trout 正是时候。
Just though you meant 7.5Ah
That capacity means the battery is only good for a steady drainage of 0.35amp over a 20hr period....any increase in the draining current will not only decrease the available working time but the overall capacity as well ...any electric downrigger will draw 5~10 amp for a 10lb ball at 200'/min retrieving speed....you'd need a 100Ah deep cycle battery to make yourself comfortable....no battery is oversized
There are other ways to fish 2 lines out of one single d'rigger...stacker rig, slider rig....you can goto SPOONPULLERS DOT COM, register to view their archive...loads of info there