More on Kingston incidence

WESTPORT -- After several incidents near this town northeast of Kingston, local fisherman here hinted yesterday more "Asian fishermen" will be thrown into the lake if they don't stop fishing in the community's famous fish sanctuary.

But Asian-Canadian officials have fought back -- casting out an open forum urging better understanding and offering a $1,000 reward for information about a Sept. 14 attack.

Not to be over dramatic, but it has the feel of a mini-race and fish war going on in one of the country's most beautiful locations.

It's all so surreal. And particularly mind boggling in Westport -- one of Ontario's picturesque gems -- where you think the biggest controversy would be whether you want large or medium fries at Scotty's famous chip stand while staring at the awesome Big Rideau Lake, 70 km northeast of Kingston.

But there is something fishy going on down here and authorities might want to get their heads out of the marsh before someone gets killed.

Racial intolerance or blatant fish poaching? Whatever side of the fence you come down on, one thing for sure is there is a kettle of fish brewing down here which looks like it has potential to boil over. "If you want some entertainment come down here this weekend," said one local resident. "I wouldn't be surprised if someone got hurt. It's just a matter of time before someone is stabbed or shot."

That's what he said. More than just him, too. Many people were talking openly like that. "People are fed up," said another man. "We are not allowed to fish in these fish sanctuaries. So, why are they?"

Local fishermen are fit to be tied over some "Asian fishermen" frequenting the area under the cover of darkness and, they claim, violating provincial laws in the process. "You pick any night and you will find these people out there in the areas that are well marked," said one man. "They claim they can't read English but they should be able to understand a fish with a line through it means you can't fish there."

Others claim they have spotted a 5-tonne truck with live wells in it -- and a full tank of gas to get it on its way to Toronto and the marketplace. "It is a business," no question. "And they are cleaning out the fish sanctuary to fuel it."

Now, there is nothing more gutless and despicable than poaching fish like this. Fish sanctuary species like bass, pickerel or even perch or crappies have no chance against a poacher.

But there is also something equally as deplorable about taking the law into your own hands. A group calling itself Bettercanada2007 is claiming that is happening here.

"On the night of Sept. 14th 2007, three Scarborough residents, 73-year old fishing enthusiast Mr. Cheng, his son-in-law and another friend drove to Big Rideau Lake to enjoy their night fishing.

"Around midnight, a light-coloured old mini van occupied by seven people pulled over near the spot where Mr. Cheng and his friends were fishing. Five big and strong young men rushed out of the vehicle, approached Mr. Cheng and threw their fishing equipment into the lake. A struggle occurred during which three of the young men grabbed Mr. Cheng's son-in-law and then threw him from the 10-foot-high bridge into the water."

It also claimed they were "beaten up heavily."

If this is true, this is brutal.

"I have no doubt that it is true," said local businessman and conservationist Charlie Jones, who does not condone it. "And I have no doubt in my mind there will be more violence."

To try to stop it he and others, with the blessing of the ministry of natural resources, has posted no fishing signs everywhere they can think of. "But people seem to take them down," he said. "And these fish sanctuaries are being cleaned out."

Steve Aubry, the boss at the Kemptville MNR office, said his 12 officers will enforce the law whenever they see someone violating it. He says that there is no limit for sunfish and rock bass and sometimes people mistake a cooler full of those as a poaching when it is in fact perfectly legal.

As for the accusations that there is an Asian commercial fishery going on, they are allegations and so far unfounded.

And yet most people on the street talk of a lot of missing bass in those waters and a white truck that meets up with fishermen in the early hours of every night and then heads to Toronto.

Something does smell like rotten fish down here but the solution is simple. First is for the local fisherman: Let the police and the MNR handle this.

But the message to the OPP and MNR is for you to make sure they deal with complaints and not turn a blind eye.

And last to the Asian fishermen: Ensure you don't fish anywhere near the areas that are clearly off limits to fishing and you won't have any problem.

If none of the above listen to me on this, you may just hear of someone being badly hurt or killed over some fish. <!-- Next and Previous stories -->

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An article from today's Sun describe why the local people is upset at the mostly oriental fishermen. It is the action of a few of us orientals that puts a bad reputation of the rest of us. Please try to respect the regulations and the privacy of the locals.  

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第一篇文章里面那些所谓的local说的就太离谱了,说看见有人开着5吨的带有livewell的卡车来装鱼。。。靠,他以为是用拖网来捞鱼啊。。恐怕钓50天都装不满那个5吨的卡车。。。

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Some people really did something bad, but the others have to suffer it. Let's say again, please obey the regulations and don't bother the locals.

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看看人家西人的媒体,毫不客气地将5吨卡车的污水泼在asian身上,湖里的bass也被他们truck到华人超市卖了,丝毫不也没必要觉得他们中的少数人的劣行会败坏西人的reputation,来个啊呀呀怎么了得!。对他们的英勇行为最多是Let the police and the MNR handle this.

反观华人,自己一个大嘴巴抽上去:啊呀呀,奴才该死!!!

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看耒該記者已盡量持平, 方面的 CLAIMS 及警方取態都有同時報導.....CLAIM 之所謂等于"未經正實", 所以看的都不用呼天搶地..

怀疑五噸車偷魚的 CLAIM 得啖笑...反之,假如能將報導中提及的暴力事件的報案紀錄提供該記者, 則效果大异..

假如有懂看華文的老外,這幾天也夠他受的了;-)

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首先我觉得把locals 和中国人之间划一条线是不对的。钓渔的中国人有遵守法律的和不遵守法律的。locals 的人也一样。 其实应该是把好的都分在一起。

这样的party 是属于不遵守法律的Asian 和 不遵守法律的locals。

laok 如果你能计划出来让不遵守法律的Asian 和 不遵守法律的locals遭遇在一起就好办了。死了那边都可以,最好一起死光。

那么我们一起在这里拍手鼓掌!

可惜的是,好人受灾!这是大家看不下去的!。。。

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Wokao, bass 你好變態呀 :-):-)

 

[quote] bass写道:

laok 如果你能计划出来让不遵守法律的Asian 和 不遵守法律的locals遭遇在一起就好办了。死了那边都可以,最好一起死光。

那么我们一起在这里拍手鼓掌!

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确实看到有几年前6人在538晚上钓了满槽(很大)white Bass,通气泵全活。Rice lake 早上3伙人往带水槽的车倒CRAPPIES。这些人很少讲话,讲的听不懂,不像广东话,。。。Kingston 钓鱼 两戒 不要桥上和70 岁以上的老人,危险啊!

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KAO,那倒是找那些人动手啊!

打没违法的老头干啥?

是不是福青帮出动LOCAL就软了?

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THere are always some bad apples, no matter local or not .

http://blog.51.ca/u-129100/?p=119

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一直潜水,看不下去的是坏人当好人。

不知道闪光湖的 locals 和 kingston 的 locals 有没有联系好。这几年钓渔人中多了些什么人?

卡车?有没有 5 tonne 是不知道,只知道XXXX 鱼具点的老板带着另外一个网站上的人物,(XXXX,XXXX)还有那个XXXXXXX的学生,不是春天去那里钓了很多,在商店里炫耀。去那里买过东西的人都听说过。还到处炫耀如何保鲜法。是不是在违法的地方只有去问问他们才知道。再去问问他们有没有和locals 发生过冲突?

什么人有空晚上去钓鱼白天有空当英雄? 这种人不是不懂法律,但是不懂道德是肯定的!!!

用人的大脑去思考!!!

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引文:

Al写道:

THere are always some bad apples, no matter local or not .

http://blog.51.ca/u-129100/?p=119

Al,that article is too funny....someone must have taken cheap drugs and made up all these sh!t....looks like we are the "粵語一個網站" that scumbag was talking about? (你的 ZT 可算是無心插柳?)

 

Hey bass are you ready for this ONE yet? ;-)

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"而這些不法之徒,就是那些自創的虛無釣魚會主持人或管理員,即中文魚獵雜誌五月號特稿所描述的無商業地址,但又不停哄人參加的釣魚會,外表好像慈善機構,但又無政府給予的慈善號碼。這些自創的網上虛無釣魚會;還會提供很多似是而非的釣魚狩獵資訊,用以吸引傻瓜加入,一般都是釣魚免費,團費另計的釣魚團。在這裡住久的老華僑都不會參加,他們的對象都是新移民。但這些虛無釣魚會,大約分為三個虛無網上釣魚會,但實是同一伙合伙人,然後分層展開對粵語一個網站,國語連同魚具店對付中國客人,及第三個黏付在許多學生留灠的釣魚論壇上,目的用以招募新丁,擴展新客源空間。"

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 "擦亮眼" 兄, 歡迎你到這裡來發表意見.....但請在享受言論自由之余, 保持克制, NO NAME CALLING PLEASE !!!

 

[quote] 擦亮眼写道:

一直潜水,看不下去的是坏人当好人。

不知道闪光湖的 locals 和 kingston 的 locals 有没有联系好。这几年钓渔人中多了些什么人?

卡车?有没有 5 tonne 是不知道,只知道XXXX 鱼具点的老板带着另外一个网站上的人物,(XXXX,XXXX)还有那个XXXXXXX的学生,不是春天去那里钓了很多,在商店里炫耀。去那里买过东西的人都听说过。还到处炫耀如何保鲜法。是不是在违法的地方只有去问问他们才知道。再去问问他们有没有和locals 发生过冲突?

什么人有空晚上去钓鱼白天有空当英雄? 这种人不是不懂法律,但是不懂道德是肯定的!!!

用人的大脑去思考!!!

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TOO FUNNY

3磅BASS估计只能水煮鱼,还$40???? 或者是老外的餐馆片鱼柳?

"虛無釣魚會,大約分為三個虛無網上釣魚會",哈哈,这里的人脾气好,另外的地方脾气坏的朋友多的是...

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"这里的人脾气好"

老鯊, 怎麼說好呢?....你這話太有意思了! ;-)

唉, 釣林從此多事矣...

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支持老鯊放牙。。。""

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calm down!!!

>>Hey bass are you ready for this ONE yet?

等了很久了!!! Sure!!!

看了半天,真如YUER兄所言, 多是自责。吗中国人喜欢反省,从长远看也没有什么不好。但是就现在看,谁还分得清青红皂白?

黑老大所说,积怨。。。

calm...

The sky is still blue and the grass is still green, the lake is still warm. Guys! Keep fishing... Let the police handle this for now....

calm...

 

 

 

 

NND 都吃包了撑的。。。

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我准备辞职,专业捕鱼,凭我的能力,俺他的算法,一年HALF MILLION不是梦啊[quote] 彩虹写道: 支持老鯊放牙。。。""[/quote]

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Hey, it's party time! ;-)

彩虹呀, cdslec 正等著妳的 "大螞蝗" recipe 呢 :-):-)

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这世界全乱套了. 太多似是而非的东西.""

我发现我的IQ在急剧下降,快到0了.""

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party time???

老大异常兴奋。。。

>>这世界全乱套了. 太多似是而非的东西.""

>>我发现我的IQ在急剧下降,快到0了

Al???  I believe so. 1/5 是你的错!!!

 

--- 梦鱼 ---

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Al, 不用急, 到了O 快反彈啦!.....LOL

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bass, 看耒變態你未夠班......this is a compliment LOLLL

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你们自便 party ...

我加班过累。。。

明早再见!!!

 

--- 梦鱼 ---

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好像此文作者自己经常拉人组团

http://eoutdoorventure.com/Chinese/Fishing.aspx

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賊喊捉賊?

 

[quote] pickerel写道:

好像此文作者自己经常拉人组团

http://eoutdoorventure.com/Chinese/Fishing.aspx

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平权会在行动

ZTCCNC Meets With Mayor Robert Grossi To Discuss Recent Assaults Against Asian Canadians ,Geogian Mayor appologize to chinese and jewish group.The council issued a media release soon after a Sept. 16 incident landed a <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Toronto man in hospital with serious injuries following a run-in with local youths. It called for a full investigation into whether or not it was a hate crime.Swastikas and anti-Jewish and homophobic statements were spray painted on vehicles in Keswik.Michael Mostyn, director of government relations for B'nai Brith Canada:

"When any community gets targeted, we feel it's the obligation for every other community to stand up... "

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此人很出名(好名坏名不知道)了。在我那一爱好的圈子里也是香名昭著的。“兜里揣张牌,谁看跟谁来”。经常用个马甲开骂。

对他我是避而远之。多年前我打听有关消息时,偶然有位不认识的香港人提醒了我一下。等我跟他面对面打交道时立刻感到需要及时刹车。

估计他也快来这里上贴扬名了。

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好像此文作者自己经常拉人组团

http://eoutdoorventure.com/Chinese/Fishing.aspx

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"此人很出名(好名坏名不知道)了"

LaoK, 你做人好厚道呀 ;-)

 

"估计他也快来这里上贴扬名了。"

那咱們真要擦亮眼睛留意了...LOL

 

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他上贴可是破口大骂呀。当然用的是马甲。不过现在善茬子不多了。大概他一张嘴,有人也会让他吞回去的。

 

[quote] shmartangler写道:

"此人很出名(好名坏名不知道)了"

LaoK, 你做人好厚道呀 ;-)

 

"估计他也快来这里上贴扬名了。"

那咱們真要擦亮眼睛留意了...LOL

 

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难道 AI 不是已经在这里上窜下跳了吗 ?

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看, IQ 低有低的好处.

这不,一不小心就挖出个骗子, 让大家看看擦亮眼睛.""

 

[quote] bass写道:

party time???

老大异常兴奋。。。

>>这世界全乱套了. 太多似是而非的东西.""

>>我发现我的IQ在急剧下降,快到0了

Al???  I believe so. 1/5 是你的错!!!

 

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老兄是谁啊? 吓坏我老人家了. 哪里看我不顺眼的, 慢慢说出来, 好让我改正啊.

冷不防一个大棍子打下来,要死人的.""

 

 

[quote] louziar写道: 难道 AI 不是已经在这里上窜下跳了吗 ?[/quote]

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Louziar, 是 Albert 的 Al, 不是 AI.....請翻看貼子, 他是個忠的 ;-)...ZT 時 "不小心" 將騙子曝了光, 還立了功呢!

Al, I really really feel for you...ROFLMAO

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Shmartangler 真是青天大老爷啊! Black Lao Da?""

小声问一句,什么是ROFLMAO?

 

[quote] shmartangler写道:

Louziar, 是 Albert 的 Al, 不是 AI.....請翻看貼子, 他是個忠的 ;-)

Al, I really really feel for you...ROFLMAO

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别吓我,我可是坐过AI的车...

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ROFLMAO = Rolling On Floor Laughing My A$$ Off

yy 大概會在 M 和 A 之間多加個 F....;-)

http://www.netlingo.com/emailsh.cfm

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不会QUOTE。那个擦亮眼,你真是应该把你的眼睛擦擦了。还某某春天去那里钓了好多,某某春天的时候还在大陆呢。编瞎话也编的高明点儿好么,先搞清楚了人家在不在加拿大之后再胡编。

擦亮眼,我都怀疑你有没有大脑,低智商,下回先学聪明点儿再去胡扯。

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Polaris, no name calling please!

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Polaris, NO NAME CALLING PLEASE!

[別人的貼已quote過, 牠edit不掉的 ;-)]

 

[quote] Polaris写道:

不会QUOTE。那个擦亮眼,你真是应该把你的眼睛擦擦了。还某某春天去那里钓了好多,某某春天的时候还在大陆呢。编瞎话也编的高明点儿好么,先搞清楚了人家在不在加拿大之后再胡编。

擦亮眼,我都怀疑你有没有大脑,低智商,下回先学聪明点儿再去胡扯。

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shmartangler,对不起,不是有意破坏这里规矩的。

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对不起, shmartangler, 我也不是有意破坏这里的规矩。

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某某春天的时候还在大陆呢。编瞎话也编的高明点儿好么,先搞清楚了人家在不在加拿大之后再胡编。

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interesting... So you are saying you were not in that group. Sorry about that, but I didn't say Mr. Polaris was in that spring fishing trip. So it sounds you know these peoples and you know they did bad fishing over there. Why not list their names here, so next time, I could pin point more precisously without hurt your feeling! You looks very excited. Is that because they are your friend, or 你 feel 被诬陷了。

As I said, not me try to 诬陷 you!!! Or you want us say: "Polaris is a really hero!" Smart Boy!

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擦亮眼 兄 和 polaris 兄。

请就此为止!我看两位都是好汉 和 英雄,没有必要再较量。

以后再看到类似事发生的化,报警就可以了。 再说很多人是初来加拿大不懂这里的法律,我们也应该以谅解的眼光去看待。可恶的是那些知法犯法,教唆不懂的人。欺负不懂的人。。。

不过不管白道还是黑道 对 shmartangler 的 respect! Shmart!!! 万岁!!!

 

 

 

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what's your point? how do you know they bad fishing? you go with them? so you bad fishing too? (according to your logical which I can not understand )

老子最恨穿马甲的了,没种!

 

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Bass 在搞个人崇拜呢!

Black Lao Da, 有没有听说过"当面喊万岁,背后抽刀子啊"? 嘿.....嘿嘿.......

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真的是 many more to come!!!

Al, 和 shark, 我们一起stop 这贴!!!不要再 upset people...

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BASS你可以"封贴"吧?没有这个功能?

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BASS看来是一个漏嘢网管。。。不懂封贴,不懂删帖。。不懂封ID...

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通通做得到....換個馬甲,開個新貼又如何?....封IP又會濫殺無辜, so?

大家都是成熟的, 囉完彩算喇!

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